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Monero's tail emission

I'd like to repost xulescu's summary on tail emission here (from Bitcointalk's Monero Economy)

Fattest tail to thinnest tail

  1. constant inflation block reward nonmonotonic: block reward decreases exponentially until tail starts, then increases exponentially total emission unbounded, with an inflection point: concave ("doesn't hold water") until tail starts, then convex ("holds water")
  2. inflation converges to zero from here below block reward: constant after tail starts total emission unbounded, linear after tail starts
  3. inflation converges to zero block reward: inverse linear decay, converges to zero total emission unbounded, logarithmic after tail starts
  4. inflation converges to zero block reward: inverse quadratic/cubic/... decay, converges to zero total emission finite from here below
  5. inflation converges to zero block reward: exponential decay, converges to zero total emission finite
Replies: 7
hadio posted 7 years ago Weight: 0 | Link [ - ]

i thought the reward block for monero will decrease smoothly for each block... but sometimes they just increase... can anyone explain in easy to understand reasons? ty

nioc posted 7 years ago Weight: 0 | Link [ - ]

The increase you see is due to the adding of transaction fees to the base reward. A block with no transactions will show only the new coins produced. A block with transactions will show the block reward as the total of the new coins and transaction fees.

adolf512 edited 7 years ago Weight: 0 | Link [ - ]

I like constant tail emission(alternative 2), it will result in the amount available converging to a fixed value due to lost coins.

x'=C-sX where a is the how large part of the coins that get lost each year.

x=C/s-C/s*exp(-st).

One interesting alternative is Reward=a(b-X)³ where b=(2^64-1)/10^10, a=10^-25

This has the solution X=b-b/(2ab²N+1)^0.5 where N=blocknumber, this is suitable for a blocktime of 45 seconds. Reward=ab³/(2ab²N+1)^1.5

Alternative 1 and 5 obviously sucks where alternative 1 is similar to the current monetary system.

Kazuki edited 8 years ago Weight: -602 | Link [ + ]

Tail emission is a great feature of this coin, not only it solves the miners dilemma after emission is 'over' but it quiet one of the biggest criticism of Bitcoin, I think Monero needs tail emission but it has to be the lowest possible, I would choose something starting with <0.1% or a 1% with rapid decay until a very low permanent inflation.

nioc edited 8 years ago Weight: -886 | Link [ + ]

Considering the constant mention of the problem with a coin that is completely mined I would think that any tail emission that converges to zero does not adequately address that. Or put another way, what is the point of putting in place an option that converges to zero after emissions have already converged to zero. Then I remembered the following post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597878.msg7202538#msg7202538

suchwow edited 8 years ago Replies: 1 | Weight: -891 | Link [ + ]

hi, huge monero fan here.

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JJabrams posted 7 years ago Weight: 0 | Link [ - ]

I'm a huger fan, I guarantee.. How much you got invested.. Ehh?